With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again.

Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?


Edit, I will admit I was ignorant to the usage of coal nowadays.

Now I’m more depressed than when I posted this

  • @thru_dangers_untold@lemmy.ml
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    Yes, countries like Germany are turning to coal as a direct result of nuclear-phobia.

    The US, with all its green initiatives and solar/wind incentives, is pumping more oil than Saudi Arabia. The US has been the top oil producer on while the planet for the last 5-6 years. The problem is getting worse.

    • @klisklas@feddit.de
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      Sorry, this is just false info. Germany is not turning to coal as a result of your called nuclear phobia.

      I will repeat my comment from another thread:

      If you are able to read German or use a translator I can recommend this interview where the expert explains everything and goes into the the details.

      Don’t repeat the stories of the far right and nuclear lobby. Nuclear will always be more expensive than renewables and nobody has solved the waste problem until today. France as a leading nuclear nation had severe problems to cool their plants during the summer due to, guess what, climate change. Building new nuclear power plants takes enormous amounts of money and 10-20years at least. Time that we don’t have at the moment.

        • @luk3th3dud3@feddit.de
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          Germany has not build any new coal plants. At least not in the last five years.

          Edit: Why are people down voting a factual statement? Go ahead and provide better info if you got it.

            • @luk3th3dud3@feddit.de
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              Hmm I think what you mean is that some coal plants have been put into active maintenance. IIRC this was rather a countermeasure in case of absence of gas supplies. They are not part of the regular energy market.

              Anyway, I think there is not only one way forward. Countries like France choose to use a big portion of nuclear, Germany does not. And every way has its own challenges. What is important is that energy supply should be independent of oppressor states and moving into a direction of carbon neutrality.

      • xigoi
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        Renewables are great until the sun stops shining and the wind stops blowing.

        • @Kissaki@feddit.de
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          And that’s more likely than enriched Uranium becoming unavailable or locally unobtainable?

          • xigoi
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            If you haven’t noticed, the sun stops shining for several hours every day and how much the wind blows changes pseudo-randomly on a hourly basis. Are problems with uranium supply more common than that? Not to mention that uranium can be recycled.

      • @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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        There is no “nuclear lobby” stop making shit up. Nuclear isn’t profitable, that is why we don’t have it. If it’s not profitable, there will be no industry lobby pushing for it. The fact that it isn’t profitable shouldn’t matter. I care about the environment and if Capitalism can’t extract profit without destroying the environment (it can’t) then we need to stop evaluating infrastructure through a Capitalist lens.

    • As people pointed out in another thread, nuclear energy is NOT the future and also a really bad short term solution,so countries like Germany are going back to coal short term to make the transitions to renewables in the meantime.

      It’s not a great solution, but without Nordstream, there’s really not much else more sensible to do right now, just to make the transition.